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Sakuya, the only problem is the d4 traits that you get from "fallout" (damage from conflicts). They should be a hindrance, or at least a complication, to the characters, but as it is theyre not, they are small advantages.

As TiaC put above, making them a bonus to your opponents looks a better idea, but then nobody would pick them from the list of possible fallouts.

silva wrote:Sakuya, the only problem is the d4 traits

No, that is a huge obvious flaw that is so obvious even you, the apologist admits it is a flaw. There are plenty of other problems, like how escalation is better than losing in all situations, so everything always devolves into a gunfight.

There are still lots of other systems that do all the same thing you would want from DitV better, and the question is what possible reason would you try to fix that system instead of just using one of the better ones.

Kaelik, if you feel the system is totally broken or something and want to talk abou it, please, be free to open another thread for it.

Im trying to think a fix for the d4s issue (supposing, of course, its really a problem) because I will play the game soon, and the more you troll this thread, the more you get in the way of that goal.

silva wrote:Kaelik, if you feel the system is totally broken or something and want to talk abou it, please, be free to open another thread for it.

Im trying to think a fix for the d4s issue (supposing, of course, its really a problem) because I will play the game soon, and the more you troll this thread, the more you get in the way of that goal.

This thread is not about how you want to houserule the d4 issue in a specific game. This thread is about "games which perfectly meet their design goals" vs "games that don't" and why there are or are not more or less of one or the other over time.

In that sense, discussing the issues with DitV, such as the escalation bias, are in fact relevant, because the demonstrate that at least one game is not designed to meet its goals.

On the other hand, discussing what specific houserule might fix that problem is not in fact relevant to the subject of the thread at all.

If one of us should make a new thread, it should clearly be you. I don't actually care if you also try to fix an issue in this thread, but it is relevant to Sakuya's question about why fix DitV that there are quite a few problems with DitV.

Well, youre right. My bad. Im opening another thread.